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Voodoo Rage · Mar 09, 2011, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Well, sort of grats on pulling it off, if I have some spare time, and really nothing better to do, I might do it too, just to prove some point, perhaps, but some things that come to mind.

Again, keep in mind that a lot of us have NEVER done these areas, so just the opportunity to be able to complete them regardless of the time is a worthwhile experience. (As I posted, it's pretty much impossible for me to ever commit time to a group and I'm sure I'm not the only one). Also, I'm sure his time was not continuous play. The beauty of being able to H/H it allows you to get up and take break, eat dinner, go to the bathroom, etc...

Bottom line, this update opened up a lot of Guild Wars to me that was realistically not accessible previously.

bhavv · Mar 09, 2011, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

Bottom line, this update opened up a lot of Guild Wars to me that was realistically not accessible previously.

Indeed. I hardly ever got into UW, FoW or DoA groups before. Finding a place in a group as an elly has become so difficult, and I completely suck at and hate UWSC. I like the bonding, but the UWSC always turns into a retard party of fail fail and fail.

I've only ever fully completed each elite area once with decent alliance groups.

Now I can simply take 7 heroes and play whatever I want. If I keep on failing UW and DoA like I am doing plenty, it doesnt matter one bit because I can just go again whenever I want.

[Nika] · Mar 09, 2011, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Well, sort of grats on pulling it off, if I have some spare time, and really nothing better to do, I might do it too, just to prove some point, perhaps, but some things that come to mind.

First: that is the tinniest compass I've ever seen

Mine is at least 4 times that size, but that's besides the point^^

Second: I wouldn't call doing DoA NM with heroes in 3h40 minutes "pwningdomainofanguish"

Third: I don't see why you would do it in NM, with heroes, in more than 5 times the time it takes us to do it in HM. It doesn't prove you can do it, it proves you got too much time on your hands

I mean, seriously, there has been a duo team who did it in 2h10 or something, HM

Could go on, but still^^ I wouldn't do it that way.

He didnt used cons -> you may can compare it with hm.

Bright Star Shine · Mar 09, 2011, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

Again, keep in mind that a lot of us have NEVER done these areas, so just the opportunity to be able to complete them regardless of the time is a worthwhile experience. (As I posted, it's pretty much impossible for me to ever commit time to a group and I'm sure I'm not the only one). Also, I'm sure his time was not continuous play. The beauty of being able to H/H it allows you to get up and take break, eat dinner, go to the bathroom, etc...

Bottom line, this update opened up a lot of Guild Wars to me that was realistically not accessible previously.

True. I got to do the Deep a lot more now^^ Just with Heroes. My goal isn't killing Kanaxai, if I wanted that, I'd go on an ally run that takes ~15 minutes rather than spending 30-45minutes there (yes, HM, no cons). I just do it for the drops, not the end reward, I want oldskl, uninscr Zodiacs^^ Haven't gotten anything yet, but I'm hoping still^^

Swahnee · Mar 09, 2011, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by zan the healer

i can do doa in nm even mallyx with 3 discord necros 2 mesways a st rit and random dps with my main char running ua pretty well, faster than glaiveway in city and foundry.

Done Mallyx with discordway the other day too

It has been a nice experience since the only other times i met him was with Ursan and with a Glaiveway PUG, following blinding what others did.

Why? · Mar 09, 2011, 06:08 PM // 18:08

doing DOA nm with no cons and all heroes is where it is at. I haven't completed it yet, but i will.

I could pug it, but that is boring, and i'd rather not waste the money on cons.

Milennin · Mar 09, 2011, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Third: I don't see why you would do it in NM, with heroes, in more than 5 times the time it takes us to do it in HM. It doesn't prove you can do it, it proves you got too much time on your hands

I mean, seriously, there has been a duo team who did it in 2h10 or something, HM

Could go on, but still^^ I wouldn't do it that way.

What the others above said. And I haven't been to DoA much, mainly because only cookie-cutter crap is being run there, and people rely way too heavily on cons to win the game for them.
I just wanted to finally be able to clear the area doing it my own way, in a fairly balanced team, without the use of any cons. I don't mind that it takes time, I'm not in a hurry, and it's fun for me this way.=p But sure, if I were to plan on doing it on a regular base, I'd be looking for ways to speed it up yeah...=P

Racthoh · Mar 09, 2011, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Second: I wouldn't call doing DoA NM with heroes in 3h40 minutes "pwningdomainofanguish"

It took human players around 10 hours to complete a full run back in the day. Yes Enraged has been nerfed, but nice to see some people can actually clear the place without a dedicated tank build.

IlikeGW · Mar 10, 2011, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Second: I wouldn't call doing DoA NM with heroes in 3h40 minutes "pwningdomainofanguish"

Yeah but giving normal people the chance to play, without grouping with a bunch of uppity farmers that would rage quit every group that isn't setting a speed record, is what it's really about.

greenough · Mar 10, 2011, 01:05 AM // 01:05

7 hero's is great for some of us who h/h'd this entire game and have never been to doa, this was my first time and was alot of fun. had to use a conset for foundry and i used one for mallyx thinking it would be harder than the rest but ended up being extremely easy. mallyx took 22 minutes because i didn't read ahead first, took 10 minutes to figure out i had to disable all hexes and conditions on my hero's and also remove their spears so they'd stop attacking and losing energy.

Improvavel · Mar 10, 2011, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Second: I wouldn't call doing DoA NM with heroes in 3h40 minutes "pwningdomainofanguish"

Third: I don't see why you would do it in NM, with heroes, in more than 5 times the time it takes us to do it in HM. It doesn't prove you can do it, it proves you got too much time on your hands

I mean, seriously, there has been a duo team who did it in 2h10 or something, HM

Could go on, but still^^ I wouldn't do it that way.

Stop using cons, 24 PvE-only skills and silly tank builds and see if you can do it in much less time.

A really good example on how 7 heroes don't break the game and how pve-only skills on heroes wouldn't break the game (probably would shove 90 minutes tops of his time).

thetwistedboy · Mar 10, 2011, 01:35 AM // 01:35

good job with DoA!
I would honestly drop the ST though. The spirits affect the minions and die in two seconds, so it's pretty useless except after your minions die at mallyx. Good job though!

greenough · Mar 10, 2011, 04:02 AM // 04:02

My second run threw Doa. only used cons after i got to the third room in foundry and had to run out for 2 smokes during the run. so someone who knows what their doing in doa, what to pull and what mobs to skip with full cons the whole way could probly do this in 1:15 - 1:30.

Milennin · Mar 10, 2011, 10:42 AM // 10:42

I also just did Mallyx today, without cons. Took a few tries to see what works, and what doesn't. Had a few deaths during the Torment spawn, but other than that it went well.8) Took 25 minutes or so.

bhavv · Mar 10, 2011, 11:47 AM // 11:47

I'm still failing at trying to do the City

I'll try and do it again, I will succeed!

[Nika] · Mar 10, 2011, 12:19 PM // 12:19

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Originally Posted by bhavv

I'm still failing at trying to do the City

I'll try and do it again, I will succeed!

Which builds are you running? (Please upload a paw*ned2-pic so we can see then ;D)

Where are you failing? At Jadoth? ...

bhavv · Mar 10, 2011, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by [Nika]

Which builds are you running? (Please upload a paw*ned2-pic so we can see then ;D)

Where are you failing? At Jadoth? ...

I did it

I was failing at pulling the mobs before, but now I figured it out:

I already had the other 3 parts completed, so I'm trying mallyx next.

[Nika] · Mar 10, 2011, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Heh gz.
But i think city is the easiest.. or did you finish the other areas with other realplayers?

bhavv · Mar 10, 2011, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by [Nika]

Heh gz.
But i think city is the easiest.. or did you finish the other areas with other realplayers?

The other areas were already complete with real players yes. I'll try complete mallyx, and then try all the areas.

timbo_3101 · Mar 10, 2011, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Congratulations Life Bringing on an incredible achievement, and reporting this.
Despite some of the negative comments, I think 2:15h is incredible. For Bright Star Shine to criticise Life Bringing and Jeydra, two of the most accomplished H/H players ever, with unfounded and unsubstantiated comments is unwarranted and unwelcome ...

Prior to the hero update, I farmed duo with a friend through DoA NM (one conset during rooms 3 and 4 in Foundry) ... but even this takes 2:30h to 2:45h, at best perhaps 2:00h to 2:15h with full consumables.
And I accept that playing the solo tank with 7 heroes still requires precise micro to ensure full aggro control, but it gives me inspiration to attempt similar!
Perhaps a university can award you an honorary PhD for services to the GW community

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